False Teachings

I woke up about 3 am and decided to reprogram the cable channels to my bedroom tv. Mainly, because my local service provider had added a bunch of new channels and I was having trouble falling back asleep. So I let the tv do its thing and about 20 minutes or so later I started just flipping through the channels to see what was on. I came across a church program where the pastor was answering questions about the Bible.

I had recognized this pastor and church from previous viewings and remembered that they had some beliefs that I thought were a bit strange. One example, is that Eve had sex with Satan and this is how Cain was conceived. The reasoning for this conclusion was that the word beguiled in the KJV means seduced physically. I have researched this from both religious and secular sources and have not found any text that backs up this reasoning.

So this morning I thought to myself that the explanation given at an earlier date was a simple understanding error (I wanted to give this church the benefit of the doubt). So I listen to a few of the answers that is shared and think to myself that I can understand his reasoning for this. Then he answers a question about Ham uncovering Noah’s nakedness. For those who don’t know what I am talking about, after the flood receded Noah got drunk and was laying in his bed naked.

According to the Bible, Ham walks in and sees his father and runs and tells his brothers instead of trying to cover Noah up. His brothers respond by draping garment over their shoulders and walking backwards to cover their father. This story is found in Genesis 9.

The pastor of the church I was watching says that what this meant was that Ham actually has sex with his mother, Noah’s wife, and this is what seeing his nakedness meant. I simply don’t agree with this opinion. If that was case then why would his brothers need to cover his father?

False teaching can be a dangerous thing to be exposed to. Please be careful who you believe out there.

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86 thoughts on “False Teachings

    1. Hello again. I see that you still do not like Paul. I have prayed for you to be open-minded. Since you still have such a problem with Paul, I would recommend you read 2 Peter 3 where Paul is affirmed by Peter. He even mentions that his epistle are hard to understand to those who have trouble understanding the Scripture. As you know Jesus affirmed Peter, Peter affirms Paul, so there it is.

      1. Beloved brother Adam,
        If you open you Bible, and
        if you read the entire chapter of 2 Peter 3,
        and listen carefully,
        to specifically what the Apostle Peter says,
        and what the Apostle Peter does NOT say
        about Paul the Pharisee,
        and about one certain topic contained within Paul’s letters
        (“speaking in them of THESE MATTERS”,
        namely “the day of the Lord”, the end times,
        not everything Paul wrote or taught or claimed about himself….)
        then the truth will become more clear.

        I don’t see that The Apostle Peter “affirmed” Paul the Pharisee in the same way that Jesus “affirmed” The Apostle Peter.

        But back to the main, most important point.
        Which one is it? The one in Deuteronomy 6:4-5, or the one in Leviticus 19:18 ?

      2. Beloved brother Adam
        You have made two huge (unsupported) claims.
        Since you value “Scripture” so much, can you please quote some “Scripture” to back up your claims? Do you have any Biblical basis for these claims, other than maybe “Paul said so,” or human tradition?

      3. I did back it up with 2 Peter 3 you are interpreting it based on what you believe. Since you have such a poor opinion of Paul, it appears to be directing how you choose to believe. As for Jesus affirming Peter he told Peter he was the rock the church would be built on.

      4. Adam
        You gave your (traditional, superficial) interpretation of 2 Peter 3 without looking carefully at the text. You didn’t quote any specific words to back up your opinion, because there aren’t any.
        Peter’s passing comments about “beloved brother Paul” one time in 2 Peter 3:15 are not a blanket “affirmation” of everything Paul ever wrote, or said, or claimed about himself. Peter refers to “wisdom” that God gave Paul about one particular topic, the “day of the Lord”, the end times.

        “Wisdom” is found in the Proverbs of Solomon too – but that isn’t the Law, the Prophets, the words of Jesus, or the Word of God. Peter’s comments, in the context of the entire chapter 2 Peter 3, (and his entire letter 2 Peter) are more an acknowledgment of Paul’s presence, and a warning to beware of putting too much value of Paul’s confusing “wisdom” which is not the Word of God. Rather, The Apostle Peter tells us who we should listen to FIRST – 2 Peter 3:2.

        Peter’s reference to apostles in 3:2, and then use of the Greek word agapetoi throughout chapter 3, cut Paul down to size, and show that Paul has no special status or title as an apostle. Paul was simply “beloved,” just like everyone else Peter was writing to. God loves everyone.
        (The NIV Bible translates the words differently, sort of “covering” for Paul to make it seem like Paul is the only “beloved” one, while the readers of Peter’s letter are simply “friends” – but that is faulty translation, as you can see from the below detail.)

        2 Peter 3:1 agapetoi beloved
        2 Peter 3:8 agapetoi beloved
        2 Peter 3:14 agapetoi beloved
        2 Peter 3:15 agapetos henon adelfos Paulos, beloved of us brother Paul
        2 Peter 3:17 agapetoi beloved

      5. Is there a particular reason why you have such hate for Paul? What version of Bible are you using that excludes the epistles of Paul as part of the words inspired by God? Because how can you use a Bible that includes the words of a false apostle?

      6. Adam
        Are you aware the word “Bible” comes from the Greek word “Biblia” – which means BOOKS, plural. Not one book. It is a collection of writings. Jesus spoke of the Law, and the Prophets. The third, least authoritative section of what we call the “Old Testament” is the Writings (Scripture), starting with Psalms, and other books like Proverbs.

        No one in the pages of the 66 books of the Bible ever said that all scripture is equal. No one, not Jesus, not even Paul said that. And Jesus clearly taught an order of priority among scriptures.

        Since you love “Scripture” so much, why don’t you quote some to “prove me wrong” – if you think I am. Jesus commanded us to do so in Matthew 18.

      7. Acts Chapters 9, 13, and 22 all record the affirmation of Paul. In Chapter 9, Jesus personally told Ananias that Paul was called for his purpose. The Holy Spirit affirmed him in Chapter 13.

      8. Adam
        In Acts 22 and 26, Luke records Paul’s conflicting boastful testimony about himself. Not only did Paul contradict Luke’s record in Acts 9, but also Paul contradicted himself in Acts 22 and 26. Are you willing to open your Bible and see this for yourself?

        In Acts 13, the Holy Spirit set apart BARNABAS and Saul for a particular work, a mission trip that was completed at the end of Acts 14. No one ever appointed Paul an “apostle” or gave Paul the exalted title “Apostle to the Gentiles” – Paul made that up. No, Luke didn’t identify Paul individually as an “apostle”, not even in his passing comments in Acts 14, (where he used the term loosely), no he didn’t. Anyway, Luke was not an apostle, and Luke had no authority to appoint Paul an apostle or recognize Paul as an apostle. And Paul’s supposed “apostleship” was unrecognized by Jesus and the Apostles Jesus appointed, in Acts 15 and everywhere else in the New Testament.

        You keep using the term “affirmed” without defining what you mean by that. Are you saying that every word Paul ever said, and wrote, taught, and claimed about himself, is 100% true and can’t be compared with the teachings of Jesus?

      9. No, I am not saying that and you know I am not. You said Paul was a false apostle, clearly both Jesus and Peter spoke of the good things that Paul would do and the things he had done. I don’t understand why you feel the need to question my writing. I looked on your blog and you write post about Paul and never once called him a false apostle. Are you trying to judge my blog by a different standard than your own?

      10. Adam
        Why not open your Bible and examine the words of Jesus for yourself? Jesus must increase I must decrease. (And Paul the false apostle must decrease too….)

        What I wrote 8 or 9 years ago on my blog doesn’t matter that much. Have you discovered anything new in the text of your Bible in the last 8 years? Or did you have an instant download of all existing knowledge already?

      11. I do open my Bible. That’s why I can’t understand why you are so obsessed with knocking down Paul. Also you appear to be getting upset even your salutations are becoming more aggressive. My prayer for you is this: that you become open-minded enough to know that you don’t know everything. With this knowledge I pray that you seek to fill the void with something besides that utter hate you have for a ‘verified author’ of that majority of the New Testament.

      12. Adam,
        If you think my “salutations” should be longer, may I ask why you do not give me any salutations at all? I am addressing you by your correct name; there is nothing “aggressive” about that. Didn’t Jesus say: “Do to others what you would have them do to you”? [Matthew 7]

        Do you know who invented the term “New Testament”, and what the original “New Testament” contained? I didn’t know that until a few years ago.
        The answer:
        The Second Century Heretic Marcion. It contained nothing except 10 of Paul ‘s letters and an abbreviated, edited Gospel of Luke. And Marcion rejected the “Old Testament” (Marcion coined that term too, claiming it was “outdated.”)

        Here a fact about the text of our current New Testament.
        Paul didn’t write half, he wrote one third, 33.4%, by chapter count. You can count the chapters for yourself if you want to. (I don’t have time to count the words or letters…..)

      13. I think you went from beloved brother to simply Adam. As for Scripture, have you forgotten the letter in Revelation 2 from Jesus to the church of Epheus? Jesus commended them on their ability to root out false apostles. Act accounts for his time there. He was not kicked out by the church. So unless you think John misheard Jesus, or Jesus was mistaken can you explain this? Please feel free to quote any other books you like,. But, John referred to himself as the disciple Jesus loved and I believe he got it right. I know Jesus knew what he was talking about .

      14. Adam
        Jesus praised and commended the church in Ephesus because they “tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.” [Revelation 2:2]

        I interpret this to mean that Jesus commands us also to test those who claim to be apostles, (based on the testimony of two or three witnesses.) Do you agree with this interpretation, and if not, what is your Biblical basis?

      15. The letter to the churches were personal letters for their individual congregations. Yes we can learn from them, but they are written for the churches . I believe you are stretching out by saying it is a personal commandment of Jesus to everyone. Again, why so much hatred for Paul? Did something he condemned in a letter offend you?

      16. Adam
        I notice you still are not giving me any salutation. I’m just wondering, why not, if salutations are so important to you?

        As for the words of Jesus in Revelation given through the Apostle John, why so much disdain for the commands and teaching of Jesus himself? Did something Jesus taught offend you? Jesus reminded us from the Law that God created us male and female, and marriage is between one man and one woman [Matthew 19:4-6] Does this offend you, because you would rather listen to Paul’s false teaching that “there is neither male nor female” ?

        If you think Paul was appointed an apostle, then please quote me from the Scripture to inform me who appointed him an apostle, when and where?

      17. Jesus is the only way, never once have I said anything otherwise. Another thing, I never use salutations, because this is supposed to be informal. What does talking about being neither male nor female supposed to mean to me. Are you making insinuations, or attempting to bear false witness against me? You are not acting like someone who is supposed to be an example of God’s love. If my blog bothers you so much, why read it?

      18. Adam
        You wrote to me QUOTE:
        “Again, why so much hatred for Paul? Did something he condemned in a letter offend you?”

        So my question back to you is,
        Are you making insinuations, or attempting to bear false witness against me?

      19. I am trying to reason and empathize with you as to why you hate Paul. I never quoted any of Paul’s specific teachings. You did. So please explain your reasoning for the hate. You obviously have a deep hatred of Paul and feel the need to convert me to your way of thinking. It is just so strange the way you are conducting yourself. You are entitle to believe any or all of the Bible you want. You can pick and choose who you believe God inspired. However, you can’t override my God-given free will to believe what I want.

      20. Of course you do. Was Jesus was real big on teaching to mock others, questioning their intelligence, and exalting himself? No he wasn’t. Jesus taught to put God first. Jesus was God become perfect man, who returned to his rightful place. No one, even you, are a fraction of the teacher that Jesus was. I find it strange that you said things you wrote before should not be recalled, but you are hung up on Paul being a Pharisee. Did his conversion not apply?

      21. Adam
        Near the end of Paul’s recorded ministry, he was still hung up on being a Pharisee.
        Paul said: “My brothers, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee.” [Acts 23:6]
        You have 3 choices
        .1) Luke made a mistake
        .2) Paul lied
        .3) Paul continued to be a Pharisee for many years after the “Road to Damascus” experience.

      22. Or option 4 it was a figure of speech. He had completed the Pharisee requirements, just like his father, but Pharisees hated Gentiles and he went to minister to Gentiles. People was mere Jew and Jesus gave him the vision of unclean animals to show him that those Jewish traditions no longer applied.

      23. Yes, Adam,
        In Acts Luke accounts for Paul’s time there – 2 years daily, after 3 months in the synagogue for 3 months. [Acts 19:8-10] 2 years and 3 months, approximately.
        Do you believe Luke’s account here?

        Or do you believe another man who claimed that Paul was
        In Ephesus …”for three years…night and day”… [Acts 20:31] ?

      24. Why is it so important to you that I deny Paul? Of course, Luke gave an accurate account of Paul’s journeys. He also gave account of more than one conversation between Paul and Jesus. I don’t understand how you quote Jesus in other books, yet ignore his words in Acts.

      25. So now you are attacking Luke? Also reread Chapter 20, it talks about them travelling. The three years includes the traveling to avoid those that wanted to arrest Paul. Is English your second language? I’m sorry, but you have unusual explanations for a lot of your quotes.

      26. So Adam
        You are saying that Luke was right, and he accurately recorded that Paul exaggerated and stretched the truth, to make himself look better?
        If “The three years includes the traveling”, as you suppose, then it wasn’t REALLY “three years… night and day”…. And Paul wasn’t speaking honestly in his boastful testimony about himself….
        Right?

      27. Such sarcastic tone. All men are flawed. Mark 10:18 Jesus said there was none good except God. So. do you feel like you can hold people to a higher standard than Jesus? What about Jesus teaching to not judge? Fear not, I will pray for you daily. I prayer enlightenment and love enter your heart.

      28. Beloved brother Adam,
        I pray that you would have the courage to open your own Bible and read it.
        You are starting the Evangelical “song and dance” around Paul’s sins.
        “All men are flawed.”
        In theory….. But Paul…….can we get specific about PAUL? You are not alone, you and I both were trained by tradition to sing the following song……

        BOSS PAUL THE PHARISEE
        [sing it to the tune of “Rapture” by Blondie]

        I’m Boss Paul, the Pharisee
        My hypocrisy’s plain for the world to see
        I travel the land and travel the sea
        to make a convert who is just like ME

        “All have sinned” – we know that’s true
        but it never means ME – it only means YOU
        My sins are all theoretical
        “I’m the worst of sinners”- but don’t ask where

        To be more like Jesus is what some strive
        except for me – I’ve already arrived
        I’m the perfect model since the road to Damascus
        What were Paul’s sins? Don’t ask us!

        I justify everything I do
        If I testify about myself it MUST be true
        I’m the only man in all history
        whose testimony doesn’t need two or three

        If I did something it MUST be right
        Don’t use the Scripture to shed any light
        Don’t do as I say, do as I do
        and then you can be a Pharisee too.

      29. Paul was flawed, I never said that. How many times did Jesus call Peter Satan? You are overlooking that Paul was young in his service the original 11 made many mistakes in the beginning of their service. Why do you overlook that?

      30. Adam
        Let’s get specific.
        Can you name 3 things that Paul was wrong about?
        I want to save us both some time in swapping scripture verses,
        So here is the dance….

        The Evangelical “Mexican Hat Dance”

        Sin is always specific, not general.
        The “Hat” is, “What were Paul’s sins?”

        The music starts, with a cheery blast of trumpets in a melody that is familiar to most North Americans- the “Mexican Hat Dance.” (The national dance of Mexico, taught in Mexican public schools since 1921, and officially named “El Jarabe Tapatio.”)

        A couple in rather elaborate traditional costumes begins the dance. The man throws his huge sombrero hat on the floor, and the couple dances around it, but never steps on the hat. (The “Hat” is, “what were Paul’s sins?”) Here are the basic steps- (there may be one or two other basic steps, but they are very similar to these.)

        What were Paul’s sins?

        STEP 1) Paul said; “I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man.” [1 Timothy 1:13]
        (Response- Those were Saul’s sins, before Jesus called him. What were Paul’s sins as a Christian? )

        STEP 2) Paul said; “Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners- of whom I am the worst.” [1 Timothy 1:15]
        (Response- Sin is alwasy specific. What were Paul’s specific sins as a Christian? )

        STEP 3) Paul said; “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” [Romans 3:23]
        (Response- Again the same question; What were Paul’s specific sins as a Christian? )

        STEP 4) Paul said; “Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it.” [Philippians 3:12-13]
        (Response- They say third time’s a charm. Same question; What were Paul’s specific sins as a Christian? )

        STEP 5) Paul said; “I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do- this I keep on doing.” [Romans 7:15-19]
        (Response- One more time! This is getting boring. Same question; Specifically, what were Paul’s specific sins as a Christian based on specific verses of the Bible? )

        STEP 6) LOOP- REPEAT steps 1 through 5, until your dance partner gives up, the audience gets bored, or the music stops. The rule is- never step on the “Hat,” just keep dancing around it.

      31. I admit that was a nice metaphor, but what were Peter’s, John’s, and the rest of the 11 after becoming a Christian? I believe you are a sincere believer and follower of Christ. But, why do you think you need to convince me that I am wrong? I know Jesus is the only way to God and that God has to draw you to Jesus. Jesus is the greatest man to ever live, Paul doesn’t even measure on the same level as Jesus did. But. None of the others did either. So by your measure of judgment all of then were false.

      32. Adam
        I have given you a small mountain of proof, quoting specific Scripture passages about specific points. You say you value “Scripture”, but you are not backing up your opinions with anything from the pages of the Bible.

        I had the same sort of training you had, based on the prevailing traditions in “The Church.”
        Did you know that less than 400 years ago, (1632 I believe) Galileo was put under house arrest for “suspicion of heresy” because he observed the fact that the earth is NOT the center of the universe? We all know now that the earth revolves around the sun. But “The Church” was convinced that “The Bible” clearly taught that the earth is the center of the universe.

        You have been programmed to believe it is heresy to ever say, or even think, “Paul was wrong” – about any specific point. Paul is to most nominal “Christians” as Muhammad is to Muslims and Mary is to Roman Catholics – their one special person who “never intentionally disobeyed God and could never be wrong” – supposedly. It’s a personality cult.

        Rather than letting “Paul’s message” fill you mind and heart, you need to open your Bible and start listening to Jesus, and the message of the 11. Paul didn’t write “the majority of our New Testament”, he wrote about one third. And the New Testament is only about one fourth of the whole “Bible”. So Paul’s writings are only around 8% of the Bible text. They shouldn’t be the majority voice you listen to. I encourage you to seek Jesus – the real Jesus, not the false “Christ” of Paul’s imagination.

      33. Of all my blog post I have written, the majority are about Jesus and his teachings. Out of 77 posts 2 are on Paul. I have never even tried to put Paul in the same level with Jesus.

      34. Adam,
        You speak of “Jesus and His teachings” ….
        But you want to essentially ignore two solid chapters of Jesus’ teachings, Revelation 2 and 3, because you say they are not addressed to us, but to 7 specific churches? (such as Ephesus)? Did I understand you correctly?

        From beginning to end, Revelation is given as a “book of prophecy”, and “blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy”. [Revelation 1:3, Revelation 22:10]

        In other words,
        You are saying the teaching of Jesus to the church in Ephesus [Revelation 2:1-7] is only directed to the church in Ephesus, not to us?
        But Paul’s letter “to the saints in Ephesus” [Ephesians 1:1] IS directed to us?
        Do you think this is consistent? Did I understand you correctly?

        All of Paul’s letters were written to specific churches or individuals. 10 to churchs, plus 3 more to Timothy and Titus. So then none of Paul’s letters apply to us, based on your logic, right?

  1. Beloved brother Adam
    Regarding Paul and the church in Ephesus (in the province of Asia), you wrote earlier QUOTE “He was not kicked out by the church.”

    Well, according to Paul’s words, Paul WAS kicked out by the church.
    Paul wrote to Timothy “….evryone in the province of Asia has abandonded me.” [2 Timothy 1:15]

    Revelation 1:4 says: “John, To the seven churches in the province of Asia.”

    Do you think the church in Ephesus rejected Paul, or did Paul lie about that to Timothy?

    1. I’m glad you have taken the time to pick apart everything I have written. I hope it hasn’t hindered your worship on this Sunday. Also, I believe that condescending tone has never won an argument and doesn’t line up with Jesus teaching the importance love. Remember you and I are representatives of the Christian faith. Does you trying so hard to prove me wrong give a positive appearance?

      1. Adam
        I understand the words of Jesus in Matthew 18:15-17 as a command of God that I personally must obey in my real daily life.
        Do you? If not, can you give a Biblical explanation why not?

      2. I agree with that. The problem is that you have posted public comment since the beginning. So you confronted me publicly where others can read. Who then was wrong? You started it publicly and I responded.

      3. People asked questions of Jesus publicly about the Law, and Jesus responded publicly and interacted in discussion with people publicly, quoting the Law. I am doing the same.

        Jesus was asked twice which Commandment is the greatest or most important one, (Matthew 22 and Mark 12)
        Both times Jesus answered quoting the same two commandments, from the Law of Moses.

        Jesus said that one of these two commandments is the first and greatest most important one. Which one is it? The one in Deuteronomy 6:4-5, or the one in Leviticus 19:18 ?

        “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “ is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ [Mark 12:29-30, Deuteronomy 6:4-5]

        Jesus replied: “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment.” [Matthew 22:37-38, Deuteronomy 6:5]

        Paul the Pharisee had a different opinion – You can see the evidence for yourself – check out Galatians 5:14, and Romans 13:8-10, and compare with Jesus…..

        So you have a choice. You can listen to the voice of Jesus, or your can choose to ignore Jesus and listen to Paul instead. I choose Jesus.

      4. Old Testament has been fulfilled, why keep returning to it? Second, the people who questioned Jesus in a public way were his adversaries: Pharisees, scribes, and Sadduccees. Which one do you fit into? You are trying to take a commandment from Jesus and ignoring it because your approach is out if order and you know it. You have done nothing to convince me you are right , in fact, I have to question you whole thought process. You are trying to pick and choose commandments now.

      5. “Why keep returning” to the Law and the Prophets (the “Old Testament”) you ask?
        Because Jesus did ! Many times ! And I want to be more like Jesus was. Jesus is my example and role model.

        In Matthew 22 and Mark 12, Jesus picked and chose 2 commandments from the Law of Moses, placing them above all the other commandments, and putting the two of them in order,
        .1) “first and greatest most important one,” and
        .2( “the second.”

        The man asking the question in Mark 12 WAS NOT and adversary, Jesus had dialogue with him, and Jesus commended Him at the end. If you opened Mark 12 for yourself you could see that.

        Regarding Jesus and the Law of Moses,
        It appears you interpret “fulfilled” to mean “abolished”.
        That was Paul’s false teaching.
        Jesus taught the opposite. Matthew 5:17-20

      6. According to Jesus, some parts of Scripture, (“the Bible”) are more important than others – are you saying Jesus was wrong? Since you value the Bible so much, why don’t you quote some to back up your ideas?

      7. Jesus said (speaking through the Apostle John),
        “Outside are the dogs….the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.” [Revelation 22:15]

        Paul the Pharisee (the false apostle) said:
        “But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.” [Philippians 1:18]

      8. The Prophet Isaiah declares,
        “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,
        who put darkness for light and light for darkness,
        who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.”
        [Isaiah 5:20]

      9. I didn’t curse you.
        I quoted the Prophet Isaiah speaking for God, warning you that you are cursing yourself if you insist the evil is good, as Paul the false teacher did when he “rejoiced” in falsehood [Philippians 1:18]

      10. Actually, all Paul is saying is that for whatever reason Jesus is being preached then at least Jesus is being preached. Even Jesus had to correct the original 12 because they were wanting to stop someone who was performing miracles, but not following them. Luke 9 and Mark 9 record this incident. You continue ignore the account of Paul’s conversion in Acts. Also, you are neglecting the endorsement of Peter in 2 Peter 3. I find this strange because his lead in to Chapter 3 was teaching about being wary of false prophets in Chapter 2. Now why would Peter warn about false prophets in chapter and directly endorse a false prophet in the next chapter. You must allow your hatred of Paul to be replaced with the love of God.

  2. Adam
    You don’t quote specific words in specific texts of Scripture to support your opinions, because then your misinterpretation out of context would be clear.

    “’Teacher,”, said John, ‘we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.’
    ‘Do not stop him,’ Jesus said.” [Mark 9:38-39]

    So the issue Jesus addresses here is not about “Jesus being preached.” It’s about a man driving out demons in Jesus’ name.”

    Jesus exposed and denounced false teaching, such as saying to the church in Thyatira: “Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads many….” [Revelation 2:20]

    Back to a previous point,
    If you think this only applies to the church in Thyatira, not to us,
    then can you explain why any of Paul’s letters apply to us, since they were all addressed to specific churches or individuals?

    1. Actually the entire quote should say that he said do not stop him, if he does it in my name he can’t speak lightly of me. You continue to ignore the proof in Acts and 2 Peter. Why? Blinding hate I assume.

      1. Adam,
        You wrote earlier QUOTE:
        “The letter to the churches were personal letters for their individual congregations. Yes we can learn from them, but they are written for the churches . I believe you are stretching out by saying it is a personal commandment of Jesus to everyone.”

        ALL Paul’s letters were personal letters, either to individual congregations, (10) or to individuals (Titus and Timothy).
        I believe you are stretching out by saying it is a personal commandment of Jesus to everyone.

      2. You do realize that you are not going yo convince me to come to your understanding? Why continue with this? Are you furthering the kingdom of God? I have given your proof from 2 different books, neither written by Paul, and you totally ignore it. You are welcomed to believe how you believe, but you can’t tell others how to believe. You misinterpret Scripture and expect me to agree with you. I’m sorry, but no. In fact there have been several others contacting me and wondering if you are done kind of prankster. They even notice the lack of logic you have. People ask me why when I present you with proof you start quoting random text that doesn’t apply. You are not doing the will of God in this manner. So, Why? Why try so hard to attack my beliefs? Why so much hatred for Paul?

  3. Speaking of False Teachings,
    Jesus quoted the Prophet Isaiah:
    “These people honor me with their lips,
    but their hearts are far from me.
    They worship me in vain;
    Their teachings are but rules taught by men.
    [Matthew 15:8-9, referring to Isaiah 29:13]

      1. Adam,
        Your blog is called “God is everything”, and
        Your topic here is “False Teachings.”

        God’s opinion about “False Teachings” should be the most import subject, right?

        The Apostle Matthew records that Jesus spoke to His disciples, telling them:
        “’Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees.’
        Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the TEACHING of the PHARISEES and Sadducees.”
        [Matthew 16:11-12]

  4. Adam
    Do you believe Paul’s letters contain, (in your words), “personal commandments of Jesus to everyone?” (Even though they are written to specitic churches like Ephesus, or to individuals?)
    https://adamdalton01.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/false-teachings/#comment-157
    https://adamdalton01.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/false-teachings/#comment-138

    But in contrast,
    Do you believe that
    the words of Jesus recorded by His appointed Apostles Matthew and John don’t apply to us, because they have already been, (according to your special interpretation of the word,) “fulfilled”, or because they are only apply to one church in Ephesus 2000 years ago, not for us?
    https://adamdalton01.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/false-teachings/#comment-101
    https://adamdalton01.wordpress.com/2017/11/21/false-teachings/#comment-102

      1. Adam
        I’ve answered many of your questions already, and given specific quotes of Scripture (book chapter and verse) to back up my answers. You have largely ignored my answers, and then changed the subject, asking vague questions without any specific words from the Bible.

        If you have real, specific questions about the Bible text, then please quote the words, and give the book, chapter, and verse, and we can discuss them. If you make a vague accusation that I am “questioning your beliefs” but you don’t give any Biblical basis for your belief, I can’t provide an answer.

      2. The first thing you questioned is the calling of Paul, I have quote Luke’s account and Peter;s conversation . I am beginning to think you have a hidden agenda. Once you presented your theory and I reject it you should have heeded the words of Jesus in Mark 10:14, “And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.”
        Instead you chose to continue to try to push your beliefs on me. Was this from God or you? Of course it was your vanity that is still driving you. Perhaps you are working with the mentality James and John in Luke 9:52-55, “And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. 53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.”
        Are you sure that God has motivated you to continue to try and harass and confuse everyone reading your words? 1 Corinthians 14:33, “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” There is nothing peaceful about your approach or continued attack.
        Perhaps you feel like you are doing God’s will, but God doesn’t use force. So here is a warning in Matthew 7:21-23, “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

      3. You told me QUOTE: “The first thing you questioned is the calling of Paul,”
        The words “questioned” and “calling” are very loaded terms, and I don’t understand what you mean by this exactly.

        Let’s deal with specific texts.
        .1) Luke recorded Paul’s boastful exaggerated testimony in Acts 22 and Acts 26, which doesn’t match the facts Luke recorded in Acts 9. Luke exposed the fact that Paul was contradicting himself, and exaggerating to make himself appear to be more important than he really was.
        Please open your Bible and read the texts for yourself, compare and contrast.

        .2) If you believe Paul was appointed an apostle, please quote me chapter and verse when and where specifically Paul became an apostle – or else admit there in no record of this in the Bible.

      4. Really? Are you even a Christian? Making demands of someone. In 2 Peter when Peter calls Paul a brother, get a take it back to the original Greek and you will see that it interchanges with several words including apostle. Prove that apostle is not the word Peter intended. I believe that this is along the same line of logic that you embrace.

      5. I quoted you the Greek throughout 2 Peter 3 in a previous post, which proves my point. It seems you haven’t bothered to read it yet.

        “The disciples were first called Christians at Antioch.” [Acts 11:26]

        No one appointed Paul an “apostle.” There are only 12 Apostles, and the 12th is Matthias. Even though Paul often claimed this special title and authority, no one gave it to him or recognized it – except Paul himself.

        When Paul was confronted by people in Corinth who knew what an apostle is, and knew that Paul was NOT an apostle, Paul backed down and resorted to “relative truth” as in, “it may not be true for others, but it’s true for us” .

        Paul said “ I may not be an apostle to others…..” [1 Corinthians 9:2]

        If Paul isn’t sure he’s an apostle, why are you so sure?

      6. Part of the verse? You are desperate the Lord rebuke you instrument of lies and confusion. There is no reason behind your thinking. You are grasping at straws.

    1. I am addressing you the way Michael did Satan in the book of Jude. There’s not point in arguing with you, so the Lord rebuke you, nothing you have said is Christ like. I even gave you proof that you have continue to try to force me to surrender to you when Jesus himself told his disciples to simply knock the dust from there feet.

      1. Adam
        I’m glad you want to quote the words of Jesus, and quote what “Jesus himself told his disciples…” in Matthew 10:14.

        From Gospel of the Apostle Matthew chapter 10:
        “He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority….. These are the names of the twelve apostles: first Simon (who is called PETER),….James son of Zebedee and his brother JOHN,….. MATTHEW the tax collector…. These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions:…”
        “If anyone will not welcome you or listen to YOUR WORDS, shake the dust off our feet….”

        YOUR WORDS are the words of the 12 Apostles Jesus sent out. (not Paul’s words, Adam Dalton’s words, or Matthew Perri’s words.)

        Only 3 of them wrote Scripture, Matthew, John and Peter.
        https://adamdalton01.wordpress.com/2017/06/13/wisdom-of-jesus/#comment-16

      2. So when Jesus told the disciples it only applied to them, but the letters of Revelation apply to everyone? You have a double standard which is not of God. I believe you are trying to prevert the words of Jesus for your own gain. You need to stop this, open your heart to God and the Holy Spirit can come in and fill you will God’s wisdom and logic.

      3. Try reading Revelation chapters 1, 2, 3, and 22.
        Then you can quote me some specific words of Jesus to prove why you think the Letter to the Church in Ephesus in Revelation 2:1-7 is only for the church in Ephesus, not for anyone else…..
        Jesus closed this message to Ephesus with….” He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the CHURCHES.” [Revelation 2:7] It doesn’t say the CHURCH.

  5. “These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: ‘Do not go among the Gentiles’….” [Matthew 10:5]

    You think this commandment of Jesus to the 12 (long before He rose from the dead) is a command directly to us today?

      1. The angel said:
        “Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong…” [Revelation 22:11]

        Then Jesus said:
        “’Behold I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.’” [Revelation 22:12-13]

  6. Beloved brother Adam
    You think the words of Jesus recorded by His Apostle John in Revelation are “false teachings” ??
    Which “jesus” are you following? Our Lord God Jesus Christ, son of Yahweh the Most High God- or the false “christ” of Paul’s imagination?

      1. No, I’m done playing with you. You are a perverter of the teachings of Jesus. You exercise double standards and you are judgmental. In the name of Jesus, get behind me satan.

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